I'm pretty new to Puzzling, but I've looked over a few meta posts about "difficulty". We don't have tags for difficulty ratings, and we don't seem to need a star/rating system IMO.

Yet people label their puzzles regardless:

I think this has all the problems Doorknob mentioned in his answer, with the addition of cluttering up the titles on the front page. Square brackets are particularly bad to me, since that's how [closed], [on hold], and [duplicate] show up. Having excessive brackets makes it more difficult to skim/scan.

I'd like to edit them all out (and continue to do this as I see them), but would like to hear the community's opinion first (since like I said, new here).

To be clear, I don't care if the poster says whether they believe it's hard or not if it's worked into the body. However, the title shouldn't have this meta information.

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    $\begingroup$ Whatever is decided please be careful with certain titles which are actually part of the riddle. e.g. puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/4281/… $\endgroup$ – d'alar'cop Nov 14 '14 at 22:17
  • $\begingroup$ @d'alar'cop See meta.puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/1438/titling-overhaul $\endgroup$ – yuritsuki Nov 14 '14 at 23:14
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    $\begingroup$ Difficulty is subjective. It should not be in the title. Something I find hard, may be trivial to others. $\endgroup$ – Coreus Nov 17 '14 at 10:21
  • $\begingroup$ I believe PPCG (codegolf) has at least one 'advanced' tag. It's quite useful in fact. There are quite different sorts of people who might want to answer questions. $\endgroup$ – Lembik Nov 29 '14 at 9:00
  • $\begingroup$ @Lembik Can you be more specific? I can't find a tag like that there, so I'm unsure what you mean. Regardless, that's only half relevant, since this question is about titles. $\endgroup$ – Set Big O Dec 1 '14 at 14:57
  • $\begingroup$ @Geobits It turns out that tag doesn't exist anymore at PPCG. My mistake. And yes, I am not in favour of adding it to the title. I do think that relevant tags really help though. $\endgroup$ – Lembik Dec 1 '14 at 14:59

Just remove them all together. As it stands, those words are just filler text, designed to gain attention but not really useful in any way.

That's my current belief; a title should describe maybe a glimpse of the riddle, but it should not add anything else superficial to it.

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    $\begingroup$ One of my questions is quoted above. I used the term "an easy one" because it was an easy question, not just "to gain attention". I find your accusation rude. $\endgroup$ – A E Nov 18 '14 at 16:20
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    $\begingroup$ An easy question to WHOM? You clearly havent addressed that. Obviously it's considered easy by you, but what's to say that's considered easy for others? Have you already judging everyone on this site, and already determined other users will find it "easy"? $\endgroup$ – yuritsuki Nov 18 '14 at 16:24
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    $\begingroup$ In my own opinion. Which I'll grant is subjective, but not worthless. You haven't addressed the question of your rudeness. $\endgroup$ – A E Nov 18 '14 at 16:25
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    $\begingroup$ @AE Good questions should be objective, not subjective. Or you can see blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective $\endgroup$ – yuritsuki Nov 18 '14 at 16:25

the title shouldn't have this meta information.

Why not? The 'hard to skim' / 'clutter' argument doesn't seem like a strong one to me. It's (potentially) useful information.

If its not in the title then where should it be? Tags would be usable.

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    $\begingroup$ These words are just filler text. We don't need filler text in titles, we want descriptive titles that describe the puzzle descriptively. $\endgroup$ – yuritsuki Nov 18 '14 at 16:17
  • $\begingroup$ @thinlyveiledquestionmark, do you really find those words totally meaningless? Even if you do, since you never answer any questions on the main site anyway, how does that affect you in any way at all? $\endgroup$ – A E Nov 18 '14 at 16:18
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    $\begingroup$ yes, they are. Take a look at SE network questons, and tell me if you see any question titles with "Very hard", "challenging", "Very Easy" in the titles. The answer? Extremely little to none. Adding in artificial difficulty levels is a completely dumb idea; it is subjective, and not objective, one puzzle can be easy for some, while it might pose a challenge for others. So to add a "difficulty" level is already extremely superficial. $\endgroup$ – yuritsuki Nov 18 '14 at 16:19
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    $\begingroup$ I agree that it's subjective; that doesn't make it worthless. I don't really care if puzzling.SE titles don't entirely conform to SE norms. And you haven't answered the second part of my question: since you never answer any questions on puzzling.SE anyway, how are you disadvantaged by these titles? $\endgroup$ – A E Nov 18 '14 at 16:22
  • $\begingroup$ If you don't care, then all I have to say is this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243705/… $\endgroup$ – yuritsuki Nov 18 '14 at 19:56
  • $\begingroup$ No - I didn't say that I didn't care about quality. Straw man argument. I said "I don't really care if puzzling.SE titles don't entirely conform to SE norms". Since you have no interest in positive participation in this community, why do you come here and continually criticise it? Seems like trolling to me. $\endgroup$ – A E Nov 18 '14 at 20:12
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    $\begingroup$ @thinlyveiledquestionmark - you clearly don't understand how SE works. There are some (a small number) of rules that apply uniformly to all SE sites, but most policies are adaptable to individual sites. If puzzling finds that quantifying the difficulty of a puzzle is beneficial, then it isn't against any SE standards for them to do so. I don't personally have a horse in the game of if it is useful or not, but saying "nobody else does it so it's wrong" is flat out incorrect logic and not constructive. $\endgroup$ – AJ Henderson Nov 18 '14 at 20:35
  • $\begingroup$ @thinlyveiledquestionmark: no. Look closely at the word 'titles'. My remark was about titles. $\endgroup$ – A E Nov 18 '14 at 20:40

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