Timeline for Should questions that involve dictionary attacks be considered off-topic?
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Mar 20, 2015 at 16:17 | comment | added | user20 | @AE If you have a bit of time, I'd be happy to discuss further in chat. | |
Mar 20, 2015 at 16:13 | comment | added | A E | Barring a particular topic merely because some users dislike it is not normal practise anywhere on the SE network, is it? Surely not. | |
Mar 20, 2015 at 16:13 | comment | added | A E | @Emrakul - presumably the people who seem to enjoy them (not me) don't agree with your subjective opinion that this whole type of puzzle is "not very high quality". (I'm having trouble understanding how believing that something is poor quality differs from disliking it). It's exactly the same "I don't enjoy doing this so no-one else should be allowed to do it" argument that was made against riddles. I don't see RPG.SE saying "no games with wizards, they're not high quality", and I don't see cooking.SE saying "no questions about frying, it's not high quality". | |
Mar 20, 2015 at 15:51 | comment | added | user20 | @AE I'm rather confused. RPG.SE doesn't allow all role-playing games questions; Stack Overflow doesn't allow all programming questions; Super User doesn't allow all hardware questions; Cooking doesn't allow all food-related questions... they've taken the questions which are least helpful and have made them off-topic. I never said I didn't like these puzzles, merely that they may not be very high quality ones, and that it may be worth figuring out how to handle them better - or not at all. | |
Mar 20, 2015 at 10:14 | comment | added | A E | Also, "not all questions of this type are are good questions" ≠ "this type of question is not a puzzle". Off-topic is for things that aren't puzzle-related. Bad puzzle questions can simply be downvoted. | |
Mar 20, 2015 at 10:11 | history | edited | A E | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 20, 2015 at 10:10 | comment | added | A E | @Emrakul, conversely, I don't buy the "I don't like this kind of puzzle so it should be off-topic for everyone" argument. I guess I'm in favour of including by default anything that even some people term a puzzle, in the absence of an argument for exclusion. Because the definition of a "puzzle" is pretty vague anyway, so trying to exclude this or that as 'not a puzzle' just seems like an imposition of one's personal preferences on others. | |
Mar 20, 2015 at 4:29 | comment | added | user20 | I'm not sure I buy the "if people are enjoying it, it's good" argument. Just because they're fun questions doesn't make them good questions, and doesn't mean we should keep them around. It's just not strong enough of an argument. This is similar to the argument for 'subjective' questions on Stack Overflow - sure people enjoy them, but they're counter to the purpose of the site. | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 16:52 | comment | added | xnor | I'd rather the tag name not encourage computer brute forcing, since that approach nullifies the puzzling element. | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 16:44 | comment | added | ghosts_in_the_code | Your choice, I'm not an expert at anything to do with meta. | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 16:35 | comment | added | A E | 'dictionary-attacks'? 'automated-solving'? | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 16:31 | comment | added | ghosts_in_the_code | I'm not sure either, maybe 'special-word-hunting' or 'brute-force' or something. Maybe we can wait for someone else to come up with a better suggestion. | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 16:23 | comment | added | A E | @ghosts_in_the_code, no worries. I'm not sure what the tag should be... suggestions? | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 16:09 | comment | added | ghosts_in_the_code | Okay, fine. Thanks for answering. You have the rep to create the tag, you can do so. | |
Mar 19, 2015 at 15:23 | vote | accept | ghosts_in_the_code | ||
Mar 19, 2015 at 9:37 | history | answered | A E | CC BY-SA 3.0 |